The Podcast

Interviews with makers, creatives, and friends. Also, strange quizzes about 80s actors.

Cloudy With A Chance Of Vin Diesel


“You go to school to learn a craft in some sense, but more than anything else, you’re learning about yourself.” The Michigan-Edmonton duo of Paul & Chris were lucky enough to chat with animator & director Jamil Lahham who shared those words about university. Jamil tells us about the organic nature of traditional animation, animating cycles for iPads and the weight of an Oscar.

Stay tuned for part 2 where we learn about Jamil’s animated short and how one stays focused. Thanks to you for listening. A very special thanks to our patrons and of course Jamil Lahham.

Support Your Local Archive


Or: “You’re on Camera Whether You Like It or Not”

This is part deux of our conversation with Carolyn Fung & Paul Juricic who were grad students at The Centre for Digital Media. Their final project at the CDM was Project ACME, a personal archiving tool to collect and sort your digital data. We start off talking about the amazing physical archives they visited. For the sake of your sanity in the following notes, “Paul” is our guest. “Host Paul” is the co-host who says he loves pop music.

  • Carolyn tells us about the treasures of The Museum of Vancouver and the Planitarium. Organizations like the institutions mentioned above don’t have the funds to create a digital archive for their treasures.
  • Chris mentions the amazing Storycorps project as an example of a successful archive project.
  • Carolyn shares that part of her work with NGX Interactive is about making an interpretive design. How do you make things relevant to people?
  • It turns out that many TV shows in the late 80s and 90s reused tapes so there is no official record of the show USA Up All Night.
  • Paul suggests we seek out Mél Hogan to learn more about the opportunities in archived data.
  • Chris shares a fiction book that deals with digitizing books in a unique way, Vernor Vinge’s Rainbow’s End.
  • We talk about the volume of pictures we take these days versus the past when we used film. Carolyn mentioned that she recently did a hike at Deep Cove and when they reached the top everyone pulled out their phones instead of enjoying the view.
  • Paul says that he wishes the criticism around twitter wasn’t focused on the stream of conscience, or somewhat silly posts and concentrated on the broadcast or spam of companies that get in the way of communication.
  • Paul uses BBM with a group of friends to stay in touch. There’s less corporate distractions and therefore it is a better tool than twitter for him.
  • Paul tells the story of a This American Life episode where two friends were exchanging old pictures of themselves and one noticed his grandmother was in the background of his friend’s picture.
  • Chris wants a Mr. Show with Bob & David sketch about people looking at old photos recalling the documentation process of the picture and not the subject matter.
  • Paul wonders if there is any inch of Grandville Island that hasn’t been documented by people’s pictures.
  • Paul discusses the future of Project ACME.
  • Paul uses his traditional podcast plug time to tell us all that we should watch Fargo.
  • Carolyn tells us to all go out to our local spaces that are trying to teach us about the local history, no matter the scale. They need our support and input.
  • Host Paul is very happy that we had a tremendous number of live listeners during this show. Listen live at 7pm MST or 9pm EST on Thursday evenings.

Find Carolyn on twitter, @carofung and Paul says you can find him on a sidewalk in East Vancouver. (Or Linkedin.) Thanks to both of them for joining us and patiently waiting for the release of this episode. Help us release more episodes, learn more over at Or yell at us at



On this episode the gents talk about preserving memories, archiving, data and private interests. The guests are graduate students from The Centre for Digital Media, Paul Juricic and Carolyn Fung. For the sake of your sanity in the following notes, “Paul” is our guest. “Host Paul” is your Trill podcast host, not a symbiont.

  • Previously on Montreal Sauce…Carolyn has been on before so she updates us on the project she was involved in before, True North.
  • Paul tells us about the previous team he worked with Altru.City.
  • Carolyn is now working with NGX Interactive.
  • Paul tells us about Archinodes and the graduate project, Project ACME.
  • Archinodes design lab was started by Paul Juricic, Mél Hogan and Jeff Traynor.
  • The graduate project was a prototype built on an an earlier idea, Arc.
  • Paul said they explored various services like Delicious and Pocket.
  • Dig Paul’s ride.
  • Carolyn and the team played with physical objects to get an idea of how people handle things before building their interface.
  • Is Evernote useful or just a “dumping ground?”
  • Permissions and sharing were interesting challenges. For example, Apps like Slack want to make your entire workflow easily accessible. However, Google Drive wants you to use their service, so Slack had to come up with a workaround to get your Google Docs into their app.
  • The prototype app the team worked on is for analyzing and exploring your data, not making content. Paul says it’s similar to Hootsuite, which is a tool to manage your other social media accounts.
  • Chris shares his new fascination indiewebcamp, which is about syndicating your data to other services and keeping control of it.

Really fascinating conversation with Paul and Carolyn about telling stories about the past versus controlling data. The next episode will be part 2 of the live chat and we’ll continue the conversation about the various methods organizations use to archive information. Be sure to check out Carolyn’s Twitter account or stalk Paul on LinkedIn. If you want to follow the production of the show, check out our blog on Patreon.

Sauce Packet: Green Radicals & Brainwashed Dookie


This is our first Sauce Packet, a short show on a single topic. The inaugural topic is “that album that always finds its way into your playlist.”

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Bit and Bang 2.0


We go deep into programming languages and their history with our guest Tierney Coren. There’s a sprinkling of tech recommendations, some Rooster Teeth and a discussion on the popularity of Let’s Play videos.

  • Chris asks the tough question, “What is Node.js?
  • Learn more about javascript with Douglas Crockford.
  • Syntax can make things difficult when it comes to languages. Paul says jQuery really helped in the case of popularizing Javascript.
  • Tierney discusses Gulp.js and Electron, web kits for Node.
  • Our guest is using a Razer mouse and headset. He found this gear thanks to the company sponsoring his favorite content producer, Rooster Teeth.
  • Chris uses a Logitech Performance Mouse MX. He wore one out in 3-4 years, but bought another because he couldn’t find the rad gaming mice that people really enjoy.
  • Our younger guest uses his iPhone 6+ for all his media viewing rather than a TV or computer. Paul’s testing out an iPad Pro, maybe it’s an all-in-one solution?
  • Paul likes Sleep++ to monitor his sleep.
  • Tierney uses CodeHub to connect to Github on his phone.
  • The many text editors in Tierney’s life, Brackets, Atom and Visual Studio Code.
  • Flavors of linux discussed, Elementary OS, ubuntu, kubuntu, CrunchBang and Arch.
  • Chris like this windows manager for Linux, OpenBox.
  • We discuss the popularity of Let’s Plays.
  • Pewdiepie has built an empire by just making Let’s Play videos.
  • Tierney asks that you please visit the Node.js Github and join the community. Everyone is welcome.
  • Chris thanks Tunabelly software for giving him a copy of Temperature Gauge Pro to test on his Mac. Guess what? It works great and is making his computer less noisy during the podcast!
  • Thanks to Arturo and Brandon for joining us in the chat channel.

Special thanks to Tierney for joining us at the last minute! Of course, thank you for listening to the show. Find Tierney on Cupcake or his site If you want to know what’s happening with Montreal Sauce, check the posts on Patreon. You can also support the show there. There’s also a Facebook page now.